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Refusing to pay now child is 16?

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02 Aug 14 #441168 by butterfly crossing
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Hi

Asking for a friend, she split with her ex husband when her baby was just 3 months old, after finding he was having an affair with her ''best friend''!!

She always made the child go with her Dad even when she didn''t want to.

He has now decided that as she is sixteen he is not going to pay for her anymore. Can he do this?

She is going to college in September, but not doing what he wants her to do.

He says he has been to see a solicitor, and that he is in the right, and has been over paying for his daughter for years!!

We think you cannot overpay for a child.

It has always been a private arrangement and has never gone up!!

The solicitor has also apparently told him he does not have to pay anymore, as she is sixteen!!

The solicitor has also apparently told him as mum refuses to meet with him so that they can discuss the daughters future and tell her which course she has to take at college, this is also why he shouldn''t have to pay.

Mum believes that the daughter should make her own choices and not be pushed into something she doesn''t want to do as it is her future, not Mums or Dads.

He was going to pay £150 towards her college fees, for materials, but has now said he won''t as it''s not what he wants her to do. So Mum now has to find the whole £300.

As she is a single Mum on tax credits, does anyone know if she will have to pay, as obviously she has no idea where she is going to be able to find the extra money from?

Dad has also got her a job in a well known clothes shop, where his wife is manager. She is not on the books, and is paid just £17 for the day by them, but they only give her £7 as they say they put the other £10 in to a savings account for her!!

They make her start work at 0645hrs in the morning and she finishes at anywhere between 1500hrs and 1700hrs. The daughter feels she has to do this, as it is her Dad and step mother and she stays with them every other weekend.

Can he do any of this?

Any advice given will be great.

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02 Aug 14 #441179 by WYSPECIAL
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a private agreement ends when the parties no longer agree.

16 year old at college will still fall under remit of CMS so your friend will have to apply to them to do an assessment if her ex will no longer pay by private agreement. sooner she does it the better as no money will be due until she applies.

Can''t imagine that any well known clothes shop is going to employ casual labour for cash in hand.

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14 Aug 14 #442109 by Child Maintenance Options
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Hello Butterfly Crossing

I am Sarah, the child maintenance Options consultant

Under the Government’s rules on child maintenance, payments should be made until a child reaches 16, or until 20 if the child is still in full-time, non-advanced education. Full-time is classed as a minimum of 12 hours per week and non-advanced is classed as anything up to an including A-level standard or equivalent. As a general rule, if the main carer of the child is still eligible to receive Child Benefit for the child, maintenance should also be paid.

On the Child Maintenance Options website, www.cmoptions.org, your friend can find lots of information as well as tools and leaflets, which are designed to help set up or renegotiate their family-based arrangement. In particular, there is a Discussion Guide which can help with any negotiations.

Although family-based arrangements are not legally enforceable, they are the quickest and easiest way to arrange maintenance and they tend to stay in place longer as it is something that both parents have agreed to.
If your friend cannot renegotiate their arrangement satisfactorily, there are other ways that maintenance can be arranged.

One way is called Direct Pay, which is set up via the Child Maintenance Service. This is where they will work out how much maintenance should be paid and then leave it up to the two parents to decide how the payments are made, such as, a standing order, e-money transfer or cash.

Direct Pay arrangements are enforceable, so if there are any missed payments, the Child Maintenance Service can be informed and they will enforce them from that point.

There is a £20 application fee when you use the Child Maintenance Service as well as an enforcement fee for the paying parent if any payments do need enforcing.

Another arrangement set up via the Child Maintenance Service is Collect and Pay, this is where they work out the amount to be paid and then collect them and pass them on.

From the 11th of August 2014, there will be fees for collecting and paying out maintenance payments. The paying parent will pay 20% on top of the weekly maintenance and the receiving parent will have 4% taken away from the weekly amount.

If your friend did decide to use the Child Maintenance Service, her ex-husband’s responsibility to pay would start from around the time that they contact him, not from when she first applies.

Another option available to set up maintenance is a Consent Order (Minute of Agreement in Scotland which differs from a Consent Order), which is an agreement arranged through the courts via a solicitor.

Your friend also has concerns about fees for college materials, she may be able to get help with that if she receives certain benefits. She can contact the college in question for further clarification on that.

Regards

Sarah

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14 Aug 14 #442155 by sim5355
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Hi!butterfly crossing as the others have said go to the csa chances are if money has not gone up in 16 years she might be better off.As for the daughter working for them and them taking the money off her I would leave ,sorry but its time she decided and at 16 if the control freak don''t like it she does not have to visit him,my opinion only I would not put up with him.

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14 Aug 14 #442156 by hadenoughnow
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It is worth mum checking without the college to see if there is any financial help available from the student support fund. This is the fund that replaced ema.

Dad should also be paying maintenance as the cm options advisor explained.

Hadenoughnow

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15 Aug 14 #442184 by sulkypants
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If you eligible for child benefit your eligible for child maintenance too if he won''t pay then pay the application fee of £20 and have him assessed it might be the best money you ever spent but it''s a shame you have to resort to this.

Ema has been scrapped but many colleges still give bursarys or bus/travel passes to the students it worth asking the college what assistance they offer.

Possible explore another college that run the course you chikd prefers it may mean travelling further to get the course you want.

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