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Termination of Consent Order.

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10 Nov 12 #365538 by SaharaSam
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I have been subject of a Consent Order for maintenance payments for my child for a number of years. The completion of the order is defined as the later of subject child reaching 17 years of age or completing ''full-time secondary education''. How does the court define ''full-time secondary education''? Does this encompass attendance at a FE College and is there a benchmark in relation to attendance hours or days?

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10 Nov 12 #365542 by maisymoos
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It would probably need to go back for the court to define , however providing the order is post march 2003 and at least 12 months old an application could be made to the CSA for child maintenance if the consent order terminated. The CSA rules state maintenance payable til 20 if the child is in full time education. It''s worth having a look at their website and the definition they give in relation to FT education.

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10 Nov 12 #365657 by SaharaSam
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Hi, thankyou for that. The Consent Order was made in 2002 predating your quoted threshold date of March 2003. How does that impact the scenario? Does it mean the CSA do not have jurisdiction? With regard to the qualification ''full-time secondary education'', I''m sure there must have been hundreds of thousands of orders made where a reference to education is included as a pre-qualification for fulfilment. Is there not a fairly well documented criteria of the parameters for this considering there are only a relatively few ''levels'' of education in England?

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11 Nov 12 #365702 by MrsMathsisfun
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Personally I think ''secondary'' education would include FE college for course up to and equavilant to A level.

Some FE colleges now provide foundation degree courses and these would be consider HE.

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11 Nov 12 #365712 by dukey
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There is no clear definition, lawyers have argued for years, end of collage seems to be about the best answer, it does not really make much difference though, if the kid/s go on to uni they have the right to ask for an extension under S29 mca.

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12 Nov 12 #365984 by Child Maintenance Options
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Hi, I''m William a Child Maintenance Options consultant. Thanks for your post. Once a Consent Order has been agreed and authorised, the non-resident parent is legally liable to pay the amount the court has endorsed. However, the court doesn''t monitor or collect payments. Therefore, the parent with care will need to seek legal advice for any missed or reduced payments, unless they''re happy to accept them.

It''s possible to change the terms of your Consent Order and to do this you''ll need to get legal advice. This most commonly results in going back to court to set out the application on a standard form. The court will then consider any changes.

Any Consent Orders that were endorsed after March 2003 aren''t legally subject to change unless they''ve been in place for at least 12 months. After 12 months, either parent can apply to the Child Support Agency (CSA) and the Consent Order will no longer be valid. However, if a Consent Order dates back to before April 2003, then law doesn''t allow parents to change over to the CSA. Only the courts have the ability to arrange child maintenance in such circumstances.

If you''d like to pursue changing your Consent Order, Community Legal Advice is a Government funded confidential legal service. They offer free advice to people eligible for Legal Aid in England and Wales. Their contact details are as follows:

Telephone: 0845 345 4345
Opening hours: Monday to Friday 9am to 6.30pm
Website: www.legalservices.gov.uk

You may also like to contact the Citizens Advice. They provide free information and advice on topics such as legal, housing and debt. Their website address is www.adviceguide.org.uk/index.htm. Alternatively, you may wish to liaise with the solicitor that started the original proceedings.

The CSA state that child maintenance is payable when the parent with care is still in receipt of Child Benefit payments and the child is aged under 16, or under 19 and in full-time non-advanced education. When a child leaves full-time education in the summer, Child Benefit generally continues until the first week of September.

The definition of full-time education is more than 12 hours a week of study, on a course up to and including A level standard. Some examples of non-advanced education are:

O level, GCE, GCSE, A level, AS level
SCE Higher Grade or equivalent
GNVQ, NVQ levels 1 2 and 3
BTEC National Diploma
SCOTVEC National Certificate
Scottish Certificate of 6th Year Studies
Foundation Arts Course
Secretarial Course with GCSE entry
NNEB
Hairdressing Courses

If the child were in advanced or higher education, they''d no longer qualify for child maintenance. Some examples of advanced and higher education are:

Degree
NVQ level 4 and above
DHE
HND
BTEC, NHC, HND
SCTVEC, HNC, HND
Teacher Training

For further information and guidance on the above you may wish to speak to the CSA directly. You can find the telephone number for your nearest office by clicking on the following link and entering the first part of your postcode in to the search box www2.dwp.gov.uk/csa/v2/en/setup/apply-by-telephone.asp. The telephone numbers for each office are:

Midlands (Dudley): 0845 604 1146
Falkirk: 0845 604 4137
South West/Plymouth: 0845 604 4565
Birkenhead: 0845 604 4564
Belfast: 0845 604 4560
Hastings: 0845 604 0009

Opening hours: 8am to 8pm, Monday to Friday and 9am to 5pm on Saturday
Website: www.gov.uk/child-support-agency

If you''d like any further information on child maintenance you can call the Child Maintenance Options team on 0800 988 0988 (free from a landline).

Hope this helps, William.

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13 Nov 12 #366143 by SaharaSam
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Thank you William. The plot thickens! I think I now grasp the relevence of the March 2003 threshold. In my case because the Consent Order was agreed in 2002 it doesn''t come under the jurisdiction of the CSA, correct? Where I still have confusion is regarding the definition of full time secondary education. Your comments, whilst helpful, have now introduced new terms ''non-advanced'' and ''advanced and higher'' education. I''m assuming these are terms that are used in the realms of the CSA and its guidance. Am I expecting too much to find a simple explanation for secondary? I have also come across the term ''tertiary education''...is that not college?

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